NTBCC minutes – Monday 1 August 2016

Minutes of New Town and Broughton Community Council, Drummond Room, Broughton St Mary’s Church, Bellevue Crescent on Monday 1 August 2016

1           Attendance and apologies for absence

1.1          Present

Community Councillors

Ian Mowat (chair)                   NTBCC

Lynn Henni                              NTBCC

Chris Collins                            NTBCC/DCA

Judy Conn                                NTBCC

Claire Miller                             NTBCC

Jack Hugh                                NTBCC

Richard Price                           NTBCC

Christine Ross                         NTBCC

Alan Welsh                               NTBCC

Allan Jack                                 NTBCC

Jonathan Finn                         NTBCC

Carol Nimmo                           NTBCC

CEC Councillors

Cllr Marion Donaldson         Leith Walk Ward


PC Chris Green

PC Paul Rich

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NTBCC minutes – Monday 13 June 2016

Minutes of the ordinary meeting of New Town and Broughton Community Council, held in the Drummond Room, Broughton St Mary’s Church, Bellevue Crescent on Monday 13 June 2016 at 7.30pm

1            Attendance and apologies for absence

1.1          Present

Ian Mowat (chair) NTBCC Alan McIntosh Broughton Spurtle
Chris Collins NTBCC/DCA Adam Wilkinson Director, E W H T
Judy Conn NTBCC Karl Chapman Mgr Usher Hall / MIA
Stephen Hajducki NTBCC Neil Cooper MIA
 Jack Hugh NTBCC  Local Residents
Richard Price NTBCC Caroline Bond
Christine Ross NTBCC Dorothy Hogg
Alan Welsh NTBCC Greg Kettrick
Elaine O’Donnell
Cllr Marion Donaldson Leith Walk Ward Sheila Warnock
Michael Train  Leith Links CC

1.2          Apologies

Audrey Cavaye, Susannah Beaumont, Jonathan Finn, Lynn Henni, Claire Miller, Carol Nimmo, Lewis Press

2           Minutes of Meeting of 9 May 2016 and matters arising

Agreed (R Price / J Hugh) subject to minor amendments (to be recirculated).

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NTBCC minutes – Monday 9 May 2016

Minutes of the ordinary meeting of New Town and Broughton Community Council, held in the Drummond Room, Broughton St Mary’s Church, Bellevue Crescent on Monday 9 May 2016 at 7.30pm

1 Attendance and apologies for absence

1.1 Present

Audrey Cavaye NTBCC Alan McIntosh Broughton Spurtle
Judy Conn NTBCC
Lynn Henni NTBCC Local Residents
Jonathan Finn NTBCC
Allan Jack NTBCC
Chris Collins NTBCC/DCA
Ian Mowat NTBCC
Carol Nimmo NTBCC
Lewis Press NTBCC
Richard Price NTBCC  
Christine Ross NTBCC
Alan Welsh NTBCC
Jack Hugh NTBCC
Cllr Marion Donaldson Leith Walk ward
Cllr Joanna Mowat City Centre Ward
Cllr Lewis Ritchie Leith Walk Ward

1.2 Apologies

Ian McGill NTBCC Cllr A Rankin City Centre Ward
Suzanne Beaumont NTBCC

2 Minutes of Meeting of 14 March 2016 and matters arising

A Cavaye read out the changes to the Minutes from the April meeting.

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MUSIC IS AUDIBLE CONSULTATION – Representation by Community Council

New Town & Broughton Community council have objected  to the proposal currently being consulted on by Edinburgh City Council to replace the current licensing condition which requires amplified music to be inaudible in nearby residential properties with one which merely requires that it shall not be an audible nuisance. Our objection is based on the following reasons:

  • the present condition is clear cut and readily enforceable, whereas the proposed condition is subjective – who decides what is a “nuisance”? Who arbitrates in a difference of viewpoint?
  • supporters claim it will enable Licensing Standards Officers to make a “fairer and more balanced judgement”. In reality, it will have the opposite effect of making judgements more difficult and subjective, harder to resolve satisfactorily, and therefore open to judicial review
  • the proposal is at variance with the Music Venues Trust recommendations that, when a venue opens up in an existing area, the venue operator as “agent of change” must ensure soundproofing
  • although it is claimed that the inaudibility clause discourages musicians from performing in Edinburgh, no evidence has been produced to support this view. Indeed, the city has a thriving music scene. Venues which have failed have done so for commercial / management reasons
  • research shows that exposure to persistent noise can lead to health problems – deafness and chronic stress is linked to heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure and immune problems
  • if Edinburgh’s policy is stricter than many other places, it reflects the need to protect the amenity of the unusually high residential component in the centre. This sector makes a valuable contribution to the economic health of the city, far greater than the music industry
  • we note that the main agitation seems to be from venue proprietors rather than musicians, which suggests commercial motivation rather than altruistic support for the arts
  • as other cities rediscover urban living, the Edinburgh policy could set the way forward rather than being perceived as outdated and restrictive

The full representation submitted by NTBCC can be viewed here

NTBCC minutes – Monday 11 April 2016


1            Attendance and apologies for absence


1.1          Present


Judy Conn                          NTBCC                                             Janice Greenwood                 Resident

Audrey Cavaye                 NTBCC                                             Caroline Bond                         Resident

Richard Price                    NTBCC                                             Dorothy MacColl                    Resident

Ian Mowat                         NTBCC                                             Lachlan MacColl                     Resident

Jonathan Finn                   NTBCC                                             G Govan                                   Resident

Christine Ross                   NTBCC                                             B Williams                                Resident

Lewis Press                       NTBCC                                             G Guperthwaite                      Resident

Alan Welsh                        NTBCC                                             John Ross                                 Resident

Jack Hugh                          NTBCC                                             Greg Kettrick                           Resident

Alan Jack                            NTBCC                                             Graham Frost                          Resident

Chris Collins                      Drummond Civic Assoc                Martin McDonnell                  Resident

Alan McIntosh                  Broughton Spurtle                        Claire Miller                            Resident

John Ross Maclean          Broughton Spurtle                        Caroline Roussot                    Resident

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